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I got a new DW 5002 Double Pedal

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Maverick10

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Hello all, so I got this pedal brand new, if you saw my other post about the newness being in question, it was confirmed new by the owner of the drum store where it was purchased.

But when I put it on my 22” Pearl Export Select (late 90s version) the heel plate of the pedal is off the ground. Doesn’t effect the playing from what I can feel, just moved the kick back and forth a bit. But I took the pedal off this morning to see what was up and noticed the red base plate had a slight curve in and if I pressed the green plate down and the hoop end I can fit it flat again. Not a lot of pressure needed just a slight amount.

Is this normal for new pedals? Does that eventually flatten after some usage? Or is this an issue I need to direct to the store or DW?

Also the second pedal for the double pedal part lays flat but it doesn’t have the hoop clamp parts to it.


Thank you all!!
 
Maverick10 said:
Hello all, so I got this pedal brand new, if you saw my other post about the newness being in question, it was confirmed new by the owner of the drum store where it was purchased.

But when I put it on my 22” Pearl Export Select (late 90s version) the heel plate of the pedal is off the ground. Doesn’t effect the playing from what I can feel, just moved the kick back and forth a bit. But I took the pedal off this morning to see what was up and noticed the red base plate had a slight curve in and if I pressed the green plate down and the hoop end I can fit it flat again. Not a lot of pressure needed just a slight amount.

Is this normal for new pedals? Does that eventually flatten after some usage? Or is this an issue I need to direct to the store or DW?

Also the second pedal for the double pedal part lays flat but it doesn’t have the hoop clamp parts to it.


Thank you all!!
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I had this with my old 9000 and MDD pedal too (and I believe even the BoA, but I have to check this later).

This is more prevelant on carprts than hard floors.

I think it happens because the weight if the bassdrum presses on the front, so the back gets lifted slightly.

Not too pretty, but I never really cared too much.
 
Yes this has happened on my pedals what I do is pack the back of the pedal with square pieces of cupboard tp stop the rocking works but is very annoying BTW they are DW pedals.
 
Yeah another drummer had the same pedal at the store that was there for a lesson son I asked him about and his did it as well and I asked and he said only on certain carpets did the heel plate hover like that. So maybe it’s just on my basement carpet. My older pearl dbl pedal (only using the pedal that hooked to kick) doesn’t do it and compared it to the DW and it’s base plate was flat no movement like the DW had on a hard flat surface.

So as long as it doesn’t do it on the gif or damage my hoop probably won’t worry about it.

Thanks
 
Tiges said:
Yes this has happened on my pedals what I do is pack the back of the pedal with square pieces of cupboard tp stop the rocking works but is very annoying BTW they are DW pedals.
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Yeah I agree annoying that it happens because they are DWs.
 
Tiges said:
I haven't any idea if this happens with other brand pedals
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I’m trying to think. I’ve used a lot of pedals on different drum sets, church, jams, backline. And nothing is coming to mind but I feel like I’ve seen this before. I just can’t remember where and what pedal it was.
 
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the angle of your bass drum. Try raising the front of the drum up a little bit or if you've got it up off the ground lower it down so it almost touches the floor.
 
lefty2 said:
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the angle of your bass drum. Try raising the front of the drum up a little bit or if you've got it up off the ground lower it down so it almost touches the floor.
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I thought that to once I have mine 1in of the ground at the front it still has that problem ive always had my drums on a rug or carpet floor ive lived with it.
 
lefty2 said:
I'm pretty sure it has to do with the angle of your bass drum. Try raising the front of the drum up a little bit or if you've got it up off the ground lower it down so it almost touches the floor.
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I thought of that as well. I have my kick up as high as it goes. So I tried lowering it and it still did it. But my old pearl pedal didn’t so maybe it’s just the way the DW’s clamps system works on carpet.
 
If the spurs of the pedal are sticking out too far the heel will raise. Since the kick weighs more than the pedal, when you attach it to the hoop, the spurs act like a fulcrum and the pedal tilts forward, thus lifting the heel off the ground.

If the spurs are not extended, I got nothing.
 
C. Dave Run said:
If the spurs of the pedal are sticking out too far the heel will raise. Since the kick weighs more than the pedal, when you attach it to the hoop, the spurs act like a fulcrum and the pedal tilts forward, thus lifting the heel off the ground.

If the spurs are not extended, I got nothing.
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Right now I have the spurs completely unscrewed, meaning not digging into the carpet. Are you saying by having them that way, that’s why the heel is up?

I can try screwing the spurs to where they’re going into the carpet and see if that drops the heel plate down.
 
Maverick10 said:
Right now I have the spurs completely unscrewed, meaning not digging into the carpet. Are you saying by having them that way, that’s why the heel is up?
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No. I was saying if they are sticking out too far it will do it. Since yours dont stick out, you can ignore what I said lol.

Maverick10 said:
I can try screwing the spurs to where they’re going into the carpet and see if that drops the heel plate down.
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It doesnt hurt to try.
 
C. Dave Run said:
No. I was saying if they are sticking out too far it will do it. Since yours dont stick out, you can ignore what I said lol.


It doesnt hurt to try.
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Gotcha. I’ve tried everything.

Pedal spikes out all the way, retracted all the way. The kick drum spurs as high as they go and as low as they go with having the kick rolling.

Tried my pearl 24” in kick with all the changes listed above.

Even moved the 22” kick onto a laundry room linoleum floor same issues, but not as bad as the carpet.

The only thing that seemed to make the heel plate stay on the ground is when I tilted the batter side of the kick up so it was a little higher than the reso side. That seemed to flatten it out. But that’s not a good kick drum playing position. And putting something under the kick to prop it up seems extreme and something I shouldn’t have to do to use these kick pedals.

So for now I’m giving up and just gonna play it as is and wait for my email to DW to get a reply.

I can’t imagine that having the heel plate a little off the ground will hurt my playing too much. But just doesn’t seem like it would be helpful either.


Thank you all for the advice and thoughts. And if you have any other ideas please send them my way.
 
I'm so glad the OP posted this because I just always assumed I was doing something wrong!

I think one thing that has helped with mine is that I went to the dollar store and picked up a pack of these. I use these on the hoops and it seems to help with the angle, and it also protects the hoops. Also, having a sort-of-thick rug helps too.

 
Return the pedal.

It's not working for you.

Either that or you have a really thick and forgiving carpet.

But the fact that you said it did the same thing on linoleum (just not as bad) is what makes me say return it.
 
TheDrummerFromAmsterdam said:
I had this with my old 9000 and MDD pedal too (and I believe even the BoA, but I have to check this later).

This is more prevelant on carprts than hard floors.

I think it happens because the weight if the bassdrum presses on the front, so the back gets lifted slightly.

Not too pretty, but I never really cared too much.
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I use very cheap pedals and none of them had that issue.
Shame on DW.
 
Thank you all.

I don’t have any Velcro on the pedal as of yet. My carpet is normal household carpet. I think think it’s any thicker than normal. But maybe the padding underneath is causing it to be thicker.

I did spend 30mins yesterday speaking with a DW customer service rep who said his pedal does the same thing depending on the where he has his kit set up. He was saying that the problem is due to the angle of the kick and how thick the carpet is that can be causing the heel plate to rise up. He suggested trying to get the spikes tightened (sticking out) to raise the batter side of the kick up a little more, then try lowering the front of my kick a bit and with PPG’s suggestion (I already have some of those) I should be able to get it flat and sturdy.

But it seems that a lot of DW people have had this problem and not so much with non DE pedals. So I’m wondering if it’s because the pedals that have hoop clamp setup with the three moving discs is more prone to this happening.

I used a 3000 series belt drive with just the normal hoop mount and no base plate pedal at a jazz workshop (their pedal not mine) and it didn’t have this issue.

He also said that DW would be able to work with me if I can’t get this to go away through tinkering with the setup of it.

The drum shop I bought it from is closing down at the end of the month for retirement and so I’m not sure if returning it is an option.
 
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