Push pull stroke
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It took some work for me to get used to it as well, but I did. It’s just another tool in the tool bag, so to speak
How much does the rebound of a practice pad matter in your opinion?
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It took some work for me to get used to it as well, but I did. It’s just another tool in the tool bag, so to speak
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yep...gonna start experimenting with it for sure.
Justinhub2003
Silver Member
I have multiple practice pads that I swap between. I have the blackout pad which has very little bounce, it actually builds muscle and you feel the burn pretty quick.
Then I have an evans real free for more general use.
I also have the Meinl Annika Niles practice pad which on one side has 3 surfaces, one that builds muscle with not much rebound, then two other hard surfaces that have different pitches so you can hear each hand separately if yon want .
Lastly my latest pad is a Reflexx pad (with Zildjian branding) which is really great bc it has 2 sides with 2 different feels.
I just feel like you need both. You need no bounds to build muscle & resistance and then you need that bounce so you can learn to control the bounce Which naturally happens on a tight snare. I feel like bounce helps on snare. And no bounce pads really help on low tuned floor Tom’s where you have to work a little harder
Then I have an evans real free for more general use.
I also have the Meinl Annika Niles practice pad which on one side has 3 surfaces, one that builds muscle with not much rebound, then two other hard surfaces that have different pitches so you can hear each hand separately if yon want .
Lastly my latest pad is a Reflexx pad (with Zildjian branding) which is really great bc it has 2 sides with 2 different feels.
I just feel like you need both. You need no bounds to build muscle & resistance and then you need that bounce so you can learn to control the bounce Which naturally happens on a tight snare. I feel like bounce helps on snare. And no bounce pads really help on low tuned floor Tom’s where you have to work a little harder
You'll get it. Took me some time to get as well. I use it mainly playing fast ride patterns.
This is a good subject because we are talking about chops, in my early twenties in Philly a drum instructor, Armon Santarelli, when I asked him what "bounce" meant from one of his practice books, he said what you are Not doing. Honestly, practicing from Roger Stone and Morello books very young,< I never really "got" meaning of rebound. (In terms of feeling a rebound in my hands), Forever after, I tell young players and anyone chatting about drums, the word is BOUNCE! Bounce your sticks, the answer to speed, endurance, set mobility, stick levels on and on. Rebound has two syllables, Bounce has one, how many syllables in a drum note? One! on some practice pads, the sound from the stroke even sounds like "bounce'. Armon could tell from listening to his students play whether the stick bounced or was chocked.
My 2 cents, Play real bouncy pads (flam rudiments? yeah) and get those sticks to Bounce as fast as you can, then move to your kit.
This simple philosophy changed my playing unbelievably. thanks for chatting, Joseph B
jda
Diamond Member
Don't
over-think
this
"It was good enough for Gene Krupa..."
and you don't need to put it on a drum (like never) you put it alone by itself on a stand (there's a center threaded hole underneath) and use in a sitting position
the Bounce's are impeccable organic accurate
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toddbishop
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"It was good enough for Gene Krupa..."
and you don't need to put it on a drum (like never) you put it alone by itself on a stand (there's a center threaded hole underneath) and use in a sitting position
the Bounce's are impeccable organic accurate
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Tamboreter
Gold Member
I looove mine!! ^^^ And I've gone through my share of pads, like I maybe have 5 other types in the house. I also like the Vic Firth heavy hitter pad -I think that's what @BillBachman endorses or recommends. I've also got a Pat Petrillo 4-surface pad and a freebie from Drumeo, which is not bad.
Skul1Drummer
Active Member
if you are just doing drumset practice, I would use a pillow, or what I like to do is just drum on my legs with sticks while sitting, allowing me to work on my footwork too
BillBachman
Gold Member
Finger control, compound strokes & finesse require rebound. If your pad rebounds really well, (even way more than your drums), you will have the opportunity to develop these skills really well. Keep in mind that your hats, ride and sometimes snare (depending on tuning) also rebound a lot.
If you practice on pillow or moongel pad all the time you can end up sounding stiff with no finesse, musical touch or intricate vocabulary.
Muscle is easy to develop, finesse is not. With this in mind I recommend practicing on a bouncy pad like a Vic Firth Heavy Hitter Stockpad and then playing the real drums enough to add a bit of muscle when needed on mushier surfaces.
If you practice on pillow or moongel pad all the time you can end up sounding stiff with no finesse, musical touch or intricate vocabulary.
Muscle is easy to develop, finesse is not. With this in mind I recommend practicing on a bouncy pad like a Vic Firth Heavy Hitter Stockpad and then playing the real drums enough to add a bit of muscle when needed on mushier surfaces.
