What are your thoughts on the Offset Eclipse double pedal (or other such "centered" double pedals)?
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C. Dave Run
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Okay, if this part can be removed and flipped to the other side, yes it can be converted:
It looks cast to the tower, but I honestly cant tell.
You cant just unscrew the towers from the base plate and turn it around because of the hoop clamp. It's all dependent on that one piece.
It looks cast to the tower, but I honestly cant tell.
You cant just unscrew the towers from the base plate and turn it around because of the hoop clamp. It's all dependent on that one piece.
1 hit wonder
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Ok, yeah, it's cast in place. Thank you.
RichFaulk
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That's awesome. I'm rocking a 13/14/16 floor tom set up right now and love it (8 and 10 inch rack toms, no 12). The 13" came with a kit I bought for other reasons and I wasn't going to use it, but when I heard how good it sounded (13x12 maple) I couldn't not use it. Now its part of my regular set up. Three floor toms might seem gratuitous to some people, but just try it first.
harryconway
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I seen Tony Williams and Dennis Chambers running 'em, so I had to give it a try. Sold that 14x14, still got the 16x16 and 18x16. Have another 14x14 3 ply, but it's a Club Date, so not an exact match. But I could always put it to task ..... if I need to scratch that itch again.
JoeBurnett
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Looks like this is over a year old but you just did me a huge favor. I have been searching for these pedals forever, and for some reason, information on them seems elusive in the U.S.
I have two kits with offset pedals on them, and have been using them for years. I'm an old double bass player so I am spoiled on the concept of being centered on one kick but, something has always seemed to be missing with the Offsets. I have been looking for an upgrade, and with this photo, I have found a plethora of information about these pedals on YouTube.
I am diving in!
Thanks!
Bo Eder
Platinum Member
But doesn’t Will Calhoun swear by this? Maybe he’s the only consistent user of this kind of pedal?
JimmyM
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Will has a tech. That does make setup easier
Bo Eder
Platinum Member
So giving yourselfWill has a tech. That does make setup easier
An extra 15 minutes to set it up doesn’t work?
harryconway
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Will uses a Sleishman. Has for probably close to 3 decades. Much different than an Off-Set (which is an actual brand name). The Sleishman has been around, since about 1974, and comes apart, into two pieces. You do not need a drum tech. to figure out how to set this up, and it doesn't require 15 additional minutes of set up time. You put the two pieces together, put it on the floor, put the bass drum onto tray on the the front part of the pedal, and tighten. And you could travel with the pedal already assembled, in an anvil case (or something, or not) if you need to shave off a half-minute of assembly time. There are no drive shafts to connect/disconnect with the Sleishman. So simple I was able to own and use one.Will has a tech. That does make setup easier
Bo Eder
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I remember seeing one of those decades ago!Will uses a Sleishman. Has for probably close to 3 decades. Much different than an Off-Set (which is an actual brand name). The Sleishman has been around, since about 1974, and comes apart, into two pieces. You do not need a drum tech. to figure out how to set this up, and it doesn't require 15 additional minutes of set up time. You put the two pieces together, put it on the floor, put the bass drum onto tray on the the front part of the pedal, and tighten. And you could travel with the pedal already assembled, in an anvil case (or something, or not) if you need to shave off a half-minute of assembly time. There are no drive shafts to connect/disconnect with the Sleishman. So simple I was able to own and use one.
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Cmdr. Ross
Platinum Member
I tried the Offset at NAMM & liked them. I'm all about the symmetry of my kit, going as far as lining up my single rack tom & snare while the kick is canted off to the right.
So this pedal spoke to me. I didn't end up getting it, but I did love how it felt. I could see doing twin Trick shafts on this being phenomenal.
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2 hit wonder
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My snare would have to scoop back. That's a no, because the other option is my 7" snare goes higher. The bass drum, it'd have to be an 18" drum to clear the snare from occupying the area where I want the snare.
drummer0294
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I have had a Sonor Giant Step Middle Pedal since 2005 and it is still the main pedal that I use. I love the center setup and how tight I can get the kit. I have never had an issue with the snare stand getting in the way as I just offset the front leg a little to clear the center plate. I also tuck the right pedal under the Floor Tom. I recently upgraded the drive shafts by using 2 Trick Shafts, cutting them down and tapping a screw hole for attaching to one side.
I also have an Offset Pedal I bought from a buddy who couldn't get used to it. I found the stock shafts were too short, so I bought a center bar from Amazon and cut it to make the shafts longer.
I also have an Offset Pedal I bought from a buddy who couldn't get used to it. I found the stock shafts were too short, so I bought a center bar from Amazon and cut it to make the shafts longer.
This is definitely a good point. It totally depends on preference, but yes, some of the classic double pedals may be stronger when it comes to performance and responsiveness. However, the design of these look great in theory.
drummer0294
Member
In my experience the slave pedal on a traditional double pedal doesn't feel the same as the pedal attached to the BD. The closest I could get was to use a Trick shaft. The middle pedals feel exactly the same on each pedal in my opinion. For me they are more like playing single pedals on double bass kits. Here is a picture my DW5000 DP with a Trick shaft.
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drummer0294
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Here are pictures of my Sonor Middle Pedal on a DWe kit showing how tight you can get the kit.
doggyd69b
Platinum Member
To me it seems like now both pedals would feel like a slave pedal so no, not for me.This centered/middle double bass pedal by the brand Offset looks very interesting. Can anyone provide a review? Thanks!
The Sonor on the other hand has the extra linkage part that prevents that. so I would definitely consider that. if someone can give me the model...
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drummer0294
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All I can say for me that is not the case. If you are playing a traditional double pedal the slave always feels like a slave. The best way I found to address this to replace the shaft with a Trick shaft. I have done this on both a DW5000 and DW9000 DP and that gets you there. The shorter shafts on the middle pedal in my experience make their response on either side like single pedals. I did machine 2 Trick shafts to make short ones for the Sonor pedal above.
The real purpose of middle pedals is the setup of the kit. I like the kit tight and me centered like I behind a DB kit. I personally never liked to offset the bass drum approach but that is my preference. That's the great thing about drums and drummers everyone has their personal preferences and styles for what works best for them.