10" snare for speed metal setup

toketoke said:
yamaha drumcraft setup
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That snare is actually incredible! I had one and used it as my primary snare for gigging and recording for about a year. It's actually got a great body to it and it's rimshots have a low end I've found with no other 10" snare. I swear black matte coating inside and outside is the secret weapon to making cheap steel snares sound good. I had a pork pie with the same treatment. That Tama even has a decent cross stick sound.

Nice drum you got there, may it serve you well.

The tom mount bracket on there is really solid. You can use it to put a cymbal arm and fly a little bell. You need a bell for metal, how else do you initiate the breakdown!
 
great stuff !!
i dont play many breakdowns by the way
but what i was referring to was to have more space between your legs
9cm less is quite a lot
honestly i dont find it has a lot of body, hopefully that would change with a new drumhead...DSC_00642.JPG
 
I find that the trend these days is to tune really high (where the snare pings instead of crack), TO ME, what that does is actually choke the snare preventing it from sounding more full bodied. But again that is just my opinion.
Check Eloy here, great playing but that snare sounds atrocious:

 
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toketoke said:
great stuff !!
i dont play many breakdowns by the way
but what i was referring to was to have more space between your legs
9cm less is quite a lot
honestly i dont find it has a lot of body, hopefully that would change with a new drumhead...View attachment 159662
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A new head definitely helps that drum. I liked an Evans uv1. I also had great success with tuning the bottom head extremely high, this allowed me to tune the top head as high or low as I wanted while still maintaining sensitivity and crack.

I recorded this whole EP with that snare in the main position:
 
doggyd69b said:
I find that the trend these days is to tune really high (where the snare pings instead of crack), TO ME, what that does is actually choke the snare preventing it from sounding more full bodied. But again that is just my opinion.
Check Eloy here, great playing but that snare sounds atrocious:

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Different strokes.

To me that snare sounds incredible. I've always played metal and that's pretty much all I play. High pitched and tight is the way, many people back in the 90s (I'm old) used piccolo snares to achieve.
 
I come from the 80s when guys were still going for that thick (and usually triggered) snare sound. It took my ears a while to adjust to the newer style, but it makes more sense now. Those higher pitched snares cut through the mix better.
 
roncadillac said:
That snare is actually incredible! I had one and used it as my primary snare for gigging and recording for about a year. It's actually got a great body to it and it's rimshots have a low end I've found with no other 10" snare. I swear black matte coating inside and outside is the secret weapon to making cheap steel snares sound good. I had a pork pie with the same treatment. That Tama even has a decent cross stick sound.

Nice drum you got there, may it serve you well.

The tom mount bracket on there is really solid. You can use it to put a cymbal arm and fly a little bell. You need a bell for metal, how else do you initiate the breakdown!
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I always think of Black Nickel coating (like the one used on Brass snares) or whatever black coating that Ludwig used on the black version of Acrolite (aka Blackrolite ) as some sort of secret coating for good sounding snares.
 
striker said:
I always think of Black Nickel coating (like the one used on Brass snares) or whatever black coating that Ludwig used on the black version of Acrolite (aka Blackrolite ) as some sort of secret coating for good sounding snares.
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roncadillac said:
That snare is actually incredible! I had one and used it as my primary snare for gigging and recording for about a year. It's actually got a great body to it and it's rimshots have a low end I've found with no other 10" snare. I swear black matte coating inside and outside is the secret weapon to making cheap steel snares sound good. I had a pork pie with the same treatment. That Tama even has a decent cross stick sound.

Nice drum you got there, may it serve you well.

The tom mount bracket on there is really solid. You can use it to put a cymbal arm and fly a little bell. You need a bell for metal, how else do you initiate the breakdown!
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Just a quick side note,

The other day I was thinking about what @roncadillac said in his post about a black coating on a cheap steel shell, and I combined it with the idea of Black Nickel coating. I thought that this combination at a low price may not exist. Yes it does exist. Maybe other drum companies have done this in the past, but here is the low cost Gretsch Drums Full Range Black Nickel Over Steel Snare.



 
High and mid tuning he's using an M-80 SnareWeight
Low tuning: using a BFSD

Muffling tones would down the characteristic ringing. Most importantly there's a mic and EQing. That changes everything.

And it's a 14" snare... OP is about a 10" snare.
 
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doggyd69b said:
I find that the trend these days is to tune really high (where the snare pings instead of crack), TO ME, what that does is actually choke the snare preventing it from sounding more full bodied. But again that is just my opinion.
Check Eloy here, great playing but that snare sounds atrocious:
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I agree. Sounds like a popcorn snare. :cry: I know a drummer who has a boatload of expensive Sonor snares... pretty much everyone sounds the same and they are tuned very high.
 
Tamboreter said:
High and mid tuning he's using an M-80 SnareWeight
Low tuning: using a BFSD

Muffling tones would down the characteristic ringing. Most importantly there's a mic and EQing. That changes everything.

And it's a 14" snare... OP is about a 10" snare.
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It is a YouTube sound check. At the end of the day, the best sound check is to get your hands on a snare, sit behind it, and play it.

My post was a response to the point that roncadillac brought up about black coating for steel snares.
Now, back to the wonderful world of 10" snares. Adios.
 
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