Rick Dior here!

I have used the reissue 602 Classic sounds cymbals since they were first introduced until recently . They are beautiful glassy and crips cymbals that devour the high harmonics .
I have become more of a fan of darker cymbals lately , so I only have 602 Modern Essentials 22” ride and 15” hats to go with some Traditional and Masters cymbals .

In answer to the original question - I used my 602s for Big Band , small group Jazz and Pop/Rock gigs .
 
You can hear an old 20" 602 flatride from the 70's here
it's the one on the left.

You can also hear a 1960's 18" version of this flat ride here
This cymbal is known as the "Chick Corea" flat ride since it was given to him by Roy Haynes (after he used it on the great recording, "Now He Sings Now He Sobs", most notably on the song Matrix) After that he would ask his drummers to use it. These included Airto (Light as a Feather) Adam Cruz and Jeff Ballard among others.
The new Paiste versions of these cymbals sound almost identical (minus the dirt). If you like flat rides these are the versions that put flat rides on the map.
Hope this helps
Rick
 
This makes my day!

Very cool indeed!

Welcome Rick!
 
Rick Dior said:
You can hear an old 20" 602 flatride from the 70's here
it's the one on the left.

You can also hear a 1960's 18" version of this flat ride here
This cymbal is known as the "Chick Corea" flat ride since it was given to him by Roy Haynes (after he used it on the great recording, "Now He Sings Now He Sobs", most notably on the song Matrix) After that he would ask his drummers to use it. These included Airto (Light as a Feather) Adam Cruz and Jeff Ballard among others.
The new Paiste versions of these cymbals sound almost identical (minus the dirt). If you like flat rides these are the versions that put flat rides on the map.
Hope this helps
Rick
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Thanks and welcome to the forum! It's funny because I took my one current 602-- a 20" Flatride-- to a gig with pianist Rick Montalbano and he just raved about how after he heard Now He Sings he HAD to get a 602 flat even though he wasn't a drummer. Now I know what cymbal to bring whenever I play with Rick!

Anyway, the models you have are all beautiful and I'm grateful for the quality of your recordings. It's great to hear you play those!
 
He is a great teacher. I first heard about him while in grad school in North Carolina. I was in Chapel Hill and tried to get lessons with him, but he was located in Charlotte and didn't have many openings in his schedule. He was very nice and supportive. (Note: This was before the possibility of online lessons.) So happy he has started teaching via YouTube.
 
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Why was this thread about Rick Dior hijacked into a discussion of Paiste cymbals? We have a separate heading for that, don't we?
 
BobC said:
Why was this thread about Rick Dior hijacked into a discussion of Paiste cymbals? We have a separate heading for that, don't we?
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Looks like post #14 was a thread started about cymbals. Something buggy with the site since the post #13 is something about another thread.
 
bearblastbeats said:
Looks like post #14 was a thread started about cymbals. Something buggy with the site since the post #13 is something about another thread.
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Thread hijacking is nothing new but strange that Neal Pert would ask a random question like that in the middle of a completely unrelated thread and everyone just ran with it (luckily Bernhard got it back on track) 😁
 
I have been watching the tutorial clips and they are all outstanding.
In his drum set demos, he can get the best out of any drum set. Even an obscure drum set like this.

 

This is a fantastic lesson from Mr. Dior that I’m sure is going to haunt me for the next few weeks. When it gets this fast, it’s super hard to get any definition, and it literally sounds like I’m just bouncing the stick. Hopefully drilling this for a little while each day will help. And hopefully I’ll be able to put in time each day. Thx Rick!
 
JimmyM said:

This is a fantastic lesson from Mr. Dior that I’m sure is going to haunt me for the next few weeks. When it gets this fast, it’s super hard to get any definition, and it literally sounds like I’m just bouncing the stick. Hopefully drilling this for a little while each day will help. And hopefully I’ll be able to put in time each day. Thx Rick!
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I love this video. There’s something about his story of spending an entire summer focused on the ride cymbal pattern that I really admire. Kinda like a basketball player obsessively working on a jump shot — I can’t explain why, but I love stuff like that.

And of course, a lot of familiar wisdom or anecdotes sprinkled in there you’d also find here on the forum, like learning on old A’s, accenting the final note, etc.
 

Just discovered him the other day. While I would call my gigs moderate volume as opposed to high volume (classic rock played in small bars- I don't tap but I don't slam rimshots every 2 and 4 either) I watched this before my most recent gig and my hands have never felt better after playing.
 
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