what are some future predictions you think will happen to future e drums

Xstr8edgtnrdrmrX said:
to me it is like a crescent wrench versus a ratchet....

which one is better? did the new-fangled ratchet make the old school crescent wrench obsolete? No. They are still around. And used a lot

It's all about the right tools for the job.

for me though, the thing that will always make acoustic drums eclipse electronic drums is: when electricity is gone, I can still make noise with my acoustic drums. Electricity is not a permanent source of energy
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Right? Can you imagine? You're sitting there practicing one day and terrorists attack the power grid. Then what? :ROFLMAO:
 
best computer behind a drum set for nuance still the human brain.

----Buddy Rich from a far far away galaxy 2023
 
Sausagetoad said:
Right? Can you imagine? You're sitting there practicing one day and terrorists attack the power grid. Then what? :ROFLMAO:
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or a Cat 9 hurricane; or earthquake; or - recently - volcanos....
 
If the grid goes down or it's a zombie apocalypse, drumming is probably the last thing I'd worry about.

As for "electronic drums" I think it's not very helpful to generalize and talk about a $399 and a $3990 kit as if they're the same, they're not. Especially if the topic is their future, maybe the starting point should be the current top tier.
 
Chris Whitten said:
But fail to follow the conversation or understand them.
E-drums and drum software are cheaper than hiring a full blown studio for the day and a good studio drummer, or building your own drum room, buying a bunch of mics and good quality mic-pres. That's why so many independent artists and DIYers use e-drums and drum software, it's a cheap and convenient way to get world class sounding drums on your music. That was my point.
I try not to mind you contradict every post I make, on any subject under the sun, I'll just remind you I worked with Toontrack on and off over ten years, producing their first Superior Add-On pack, and three EZX;s, I have since worked with Roland on their TM-6 Pro drum sample module and am currently helping them with a drum product that looks like it'll be launched this year.
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Ok, it seems like you choose what you want to from others responses then add things that none of us said then you tell us we don't understand you so you must be "crystal clear" maybe we are too dense for you.

The original discussion was what do you think the future of E-drums will be or something along those lines.
at no point did anyone said that it was more expensive or cheaper to record, mostly everyone here was thinking about live applications to which I stated as I have before that the only reason anyone would use a full e kit live would be due to noise concerns which of course are non existent in a stadium or large venue. How is that contradicting anything? You also like to remind everyone that you worked with Toontrack, yes we know that but that was not part of the original discussion either. How did anything I said contradicted anything I said previously? it is different if you don't agree with my experience but it is not contradicting anything anybody here said including you.
 
Doraemon said:
If the grid goes down or it's a zombie apocalypse, drumming is probably the last thing I'd worry about.

As for "electronic drums" I think it's not very helpful to generalize and talk about a $399 and a $3990 kit as if they're the same, they're not. Especially if the topic is their future, maybe the starting point should be the current top tier.
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The closest you can get to top tier is with the Roland TD-27 (which has the same sound as the TD50 and supports digital pads) the only advantages that the TD50 gives you is a lot more connectivity and a lot more ways to customize your kits. The rest (the VAD type kits) are mostly looks because the pads respond the same. and You are absolutely correct, There is a HUGE difference between entry level kits and those kits. One simple example, I can use my aux in to pipe in my tracks, then hit record, and record both the track and the drums, but at the same time record the midi out to my computer to later use software or I can choose to record both the audio and the midi and blend both. You can't do nearly as much with the cheap kits. I would also never say never on Roland partnering with someone, didn't they just partnered with DW, and are creating their custom built software for it? maybe i'm wrong but what do I know..
 
I’d like to see some revolutionary changes in acoustic drums, cymbals, and hardware- no offense to the edrum.
 
I think acoustic drum and cymbal design is mature.
There are simply amazing acoustic drum and cymbal options in the market, what could anyone offer that would be better?
 
Chris Whitten said:
I think acoustic drum and cymbal design is mature.
There are simply amazing acoustic drum and cymbal options in the market, what could anyone offer that would be better?
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The ability to sound massive at a low volume? The ability to completely change your sound without causing freakouts by the sound tech?

I feel that just like acoustic guitarists had to learn the finer points of electric and play to their strengths and away from the weaknesses, drummers will do the same with e drums. I think they already do, actually.
 
From a novice play along hobbyist aspect, I was horrified at the poor quality sound I managed to eventually coax out of my basic (superstar, stage custom etc) kit even while trying many different heads. Much down to my inexperience of course, then came the dinner plate sounding cymbals, then much money spent on many more cymbals leading to more frustration. Just how much money was I going to have to spend?
I was trying to get a finished sound that I was used to hearing on my favourite songs in a small garage with heaps of sound deadening on the walls. Or at least the quality I had seen on YouTube drum covers. I was naive and took no account of mics, PAs or sound processing involved, nor the fact I was listening solely from the throne so not some (audience?) distance away.
When I got somewhere near I then wanted different sounds for different genres i played along to.
The answer for me was and is an ekit. Almost straight out of the box acceptable sounds that I could eventually tune to my liking and at the flick of a switch change kits for different genres. This was a game changer for me as I could actually sound like the drummer on the song I was playing along to - maybe not rhythmically just yet.
My beef is still not being able to get additional software into the kit without the need for a computer etc. Plug and play quality downloads would get even more people into drumming.
I can forgo feel for the instant satisfaction of better sounding kit(s) - to me as the only listener through Firth headphones. I am still searching for a reasonable price speaker I can also plug and play to match the headphone quality sound so I can at sometime show pals what I’m up to instead of them having to plug their phones in to my module and then they still hear the tap tap on the cymbals (not the pads, mine are tcs, nor the kick pad as it’s a silent type) as their phones are non isolating type.
So for me the utopia would be; plug and play quality add on kits that are a usable base I could adopt or tune ( no need for the electronic sounds), quieter cymbals yet with more feel (my pads are fine), and a reasonably priced compact speaker that was as good quality sound as headphones are.
Don’t get me wrong, the loaded kits are fine and my previous Alesis kits were also good, but even more choice would be great.
 
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JimmyM said:
The ability to sound massive at a low volume? The ability to completely change your sound without causing freakouts by the sound tech?

I feel that just like acoustic guitarists had to learn the finer points of electric and play to their strengths and away from the weaknesses, drummers will do the same with e drums. I think they already do, actually.
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What does any of that have to do with the development of acoustic drums and cymbals?
Genuine question.
 
post withdrawn
order in the court
motion to recess

defendant was optimistic about eDrums
was struck down plenty
motion to dismiss
 
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jda said:
post withdrawn
order in the court
motion to recess

defendant was optimistic about eDrums
was struck down plenty
motion to dismiss
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Sheesh, huh? Well I thought he was asking what could e drums offer to counter mature acoustic drums. In my defense, pleading my case.
 
Chris Whitten said:
As previously mentioned, there is plenty of room for e-drums to improve.
Acoustic drums and cymbals.....Pretty darn good right now. (y);)
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That's pretty dam subjective. :)
There are lots of disadvantages to them, like size, weight, noise, fragility, price, the studio equipment and space requirements, just to name a few.
 
Birdy said:
I am still searching for a reasonable price speaker I can also plug and play to match the headphone quality sound so I can at sometime show pals what I’m up to instead of them having to plug their phones in to my module and then they still hear the tap tap on the cymbals (not the pads, mine are tcs, nor the kick pad as it’s a silent type) as their phones are non isolating type.
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I recommend you get a 15 inch powered speaker instead of a dedicated drum speaker (which are going to be pretty much the same thing but maybe more expensive:

www.sweetwater.com

JBL EON715 1300-watt 15-inch Powered PA Speaker

1300-watt, 15" 2-way Multipurpose Powered PA Speaker with JBL Waveguide Technology and Bluetooth Integration (each)
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Doraemon said:
There are lots of disadvantages to them, like size, weight, noise, fragility, price, the studio equipment and space requirements, just to name a few.
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Ugh, again, the point I was addressing was how acoustic drums and cymbals could be improved in 2024 (nothing to do with e-drums or comparing them to e-drums, nothing to do with recording, just the actual product - acoustic drums).
 
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