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Four of the Biggest Drumming Hams on One Stage - Tool, Slipknot, Gojira and Mastodon

Son of Vistalite Black

Son of Vistalite Black

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Not much to add except this happened at Black Sabbath Back to the Beginning Show yesterday.

Good to see these super-busy, showy drummers come together to celebrate Sabbath and Bill Ward — who also played well.

Seems like Brann Dailor’s mike wasn’t working for two-thirds of the song. Also on stage Danny Carey, Eloy Casagrande and Mario Duplantier.

 
There was also this drum off between Danny Carey, Chad Smith and Travis Barker

 
Sad to see that the videos are now blocked. I was lucky to view them yesterday though, right when they were uploaded. Freakin’ cool!Made me think about looking into finding a drum circle in my city.
 
Looks like Sharon’s goons got to the YouTube members who posted the actual broadcast. Hope they’re still alive.

;)

I would actually spend money on a download of that show if they remix it and don’t fix any clams. They can fix the drummer in Mastodon’s lead vocal because it wasn’t on the first half of Supernaut, but that’s it.
 
It was nice that they brought out Ozzy alums like Rudy Sarzo, Jake E Lee, and Mike Bordin.

But no Tommy Aldridge.
 
DrumEatDrum said:
It was nice that they brought out Ozzy alums like Rudy Sarzo, Jake E Lee, and Mike Bordin.

But no Tommy Aldridge.
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Oh wow, that’s true. I hadn’t thought of that. I guess Tommy pissed Sharon off somewhere down the line and he became a lifelong enemy.
 
Poleaux said:
Oh wow, that’s true. I hadn’t thought of that. I guess Tommy pissed Sharon off somewhere down the line and he became a lifelong enemy.
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I've never heard of any real bad blood between Tommy and the Osbourne camp.

Comments on Tommy's Fb page indicate he is on tour with Whitesnake, but I don't see any Whitesnake appearances that conflict with yesterday.

Who knows? Maybe Tommy didn't want to fly all the way to Birmingham just to play 1 or 2 songs. Particularly since no one was paid for their appearance.
 
what 's the motivation behind this style of music - listening to or playing it- I mean once you are past 20 years old ... What is it that makes one hang on to it
Serious question
 
jda said:
what 's the motivation behind this style of music - listening to or playing - I mean once you are past 20 years old ... What is it that makes one hang on to it
Serious question
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Why do adults like metal? Because it reflects our rage in a new novel form. Imagine being 10 or 20 feet away from Mastodon in full sail. It's awesome.
 
Son of Vistalite Black said:
Because it reflects our rage
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yes but rage at what
frozen foods? Power windows?
What Rage Rage at what
is it reflected in the lyric
Give me a concrete example of the rage
Or what was the rage that begat the style
I can understand Rage against the norm but aren't the best known names all normies now.
 
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jda said:
what 's the motivation behind this style of music - listening to or playing it- I mean once you are past 20 years old ... What is it that makes one hang on to it
Serious question
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Why not?

That's like saying Why listen to jazz once you're out of college music school and you don't need to study it anymore? Or why listen to the Beatles, given they broke up 55 years ago? Or why listen to Jonny Cash when he's long since passed away?

Cause it's freaking awesome? (jazz, Cash, and heavy metal)
 
DrumEatDrum said:
That's like saying Why listen to jazz once you're out of college music school and you don't need to study it anymore?
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jazz blues some commercial has a nice back beat..

DrumEatDrum said:
Or why listen to the Beatles, given they broke up 55 years ago? Or why listen to Jonny Cash when he's long since passed away?
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Not sure anyone is stuck on either of those.
What I mean is

"why the angry 8th note pounding guitars?"
What's there to rage about anymore- except for a few isolated incidents and I don't hear a specific rage expressed in the Lyric. If I could discern the Lyric I might understand what the gumbling is about
What's the anger over- I could understand Black Sabbath in 1972- I did- but these 21st century bands carrying it on.
What's the beef? What's the new beef? Same as the old beef? Serious questions

What are they rebeling against?
 
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jda said:
what 's the motivation behind this style of music - listening to or playing it- I mean once you are past 20 years old ... What is it that makes one hang on to it
Serious question
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I understand how you are inquiring about that type of music on an emotional-release level. But I think older people play that way simply because it’s fun. It’s aggressive and adrenaline-generating, and you feel like you’re part of a big, loud, crushing machine… You feel strong. Plus, it requires strength, skill and discipline – it’s great exercise.



And, just like most rock and roll music, it makes you feel younger.
 
jda said:
jazz blues some commercial has a nice back beat..


Not sure anyone is stuck on either of those.
What I mean is

"why the angry 8th note pounding guitars?"
What's there to rage about anymore- except for a few isolated incidents and I don't hear a specific rage expressed in the Lyric. If I could discern the Lyric I might understand what the gumbling is about
What's the anger over- I could understand Black Sabbath in 1972- I did- but these 21st century bands carrying it on.
What's the beef? What's the new beef? Same as the old beef? Serious questions

What are they rebeling against?
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Typically, heavy metal themes have always included death, destruction, war, pestilence, ignorant people, solitude, alienation, love, the lack of love, mythical creatures, ancient societies, politics, religion, satan, the metal scene itself, getting wasted, keeping from getting wasted, and, in the case of Mastodon, a concept album about Moby Dick. It's about anything, really, other than cruising in one's car in search of impossibly hot girls.
 
'There's just so much beauty in the instruments we all handle

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what's jist of what he singing about


and this one


one comment said "Man their energy is so shit. Like why do this at this point. I’ve seen cover bands with more energy. Metal is over."
 
DrumEatDrum said:
Cause it's freaking awesome
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Rage Against the Machine!! I'm not really into their politics but LOVE the music! Some people are lyrics oriented and/or need to sign-on or endorse an actual or perceived message of a band. Not me, I just dig the music.
 
I understand what direction pop music was doing that LED to Black Sabbath in 70-72... It's the part these post-Sabbath bands TOOK - perceived it to be as "the" important part - afterwards, and carried on for near 50 years - in my mind missed the point. Didn't advance. And in some -many ways distilled it down - to it's ugliest shell.
There was some harmony to Original Sabbath in the moods, textures, drum playing.
Bands afterwards took the violent ok head banging part and missed
Like smoke a joint and Chill out. Sabbath did.
It- the new Metal- post-Sabbath- lost any semblance of or didn't emphasize any that I'm aware of subtlety
I mean King Crimson... had Finger Cymbals for cripes sake. Can't get more delicate than that- Then - hit with the hard guitar..

Like, dude where's the mellotron?
or even a freaking B3.
I ain't gonna ask for any piano.
That would be too mainstream . For their cred.

even Carl Palmer had a B3 (or C3)... before Keith pushed it over.

Nope just that chompin guitar please cause, well you know
 
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jda said:
what 's the motivation behind this style of music - listening to or playing it- I mean once you are past 20 years old ... What is it that makes one hang on to it
Serious question
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ok, short answer as to not derail the topic:

I ask the same about jazz....what is the appeal? the motivation? It is just a bunch of guys wanking on their instruments right?

same with pop...or country, or classical...

and whatever the answers to the above questions are, are going to be the same for metal

it is not different....just unfamiliar to those who don't familiarize themselves to it.

I started with jazz as a young kid...like 2-7 years old. I then added 70's prog like Yes, Rush, Kansas and Styx....and then added metal and punk in the 80's and continued to add genres. I never 'gave up on" or "grew out of" any genre because their is legit viability to all of them. and they all feed on each other. The intensity of "Giant Steps" by Coltrane is the exact same to me as "Straight Edge" by Minor Threat

and the overall appeal to me was the music. The technicality, the emotion, the artistry....and then as I got older, learning about the equipment, and the personalities of the players, and the history of the industry and genre

metal (and punk) motivated me to not be afraid...to look outside the norm. It allowed me to have a space where I could rage, and play fast notes...sort of like Coltrane in the 60's...

and to this day, it still does that...and as a 56 year old, I still need that space...I never "grew out" of, or deny myself of emotional space because of my age
 
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