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Identify this Ludwig drum set?

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sutheric

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I recently inherited this old Ludwig five-piece drum set. It requires a wrench to adjust the hardware and bears some similarity to the Ludwig Butcher's Block drum sets of the 1970s. This narrows it down to the right ballpark, but I am having trouble finding an exact match online. The rack tom mount has a plastic handle instead of metal and different logo than the other drum sets from this series that I could find.
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The bottom heads (presumably the ones they originally came with) say "Ludwig Rockers"; not sure if this is just the name of the resonant head or the entire drum set). All drums included have adjustable dampeners for the top heads. What eras are the Remo Fiberskyn batter heads from, and what material are they made of?
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I currently have it set up as a four-piece because the hardware on the smallest tom won't stay in. It is impossible to screw it in properly through one of the holes; what is the problem here, and what can be done about it?
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The bass drum pedal that it came with has a broken beater, and modern beaters won't fit; what pedal is this? I am using a different pedal of mine instead.
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What exact snare drum is this, and what size of tension rods do I need to replace the missing ones?
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It has Sabian SR2 cymbals (from what era?) that sound great. The cymbals and hi-hat have nice, sturdy Gibraltar stands. If I sell the drums, I am not sure if I will want to keep the cymbals and stands because they are nice and matching and I could use them with other drums reliably. There is a Stagg throne and Ludwig snare stand. Once I fix everything up, how much could I realistically make for this drum set
1. Everything included?
2. Shells and hardware?
3. Just shells?
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Any knowledge or advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Eric
 
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sutheric said:
I recently inherited this old Ludwig five-piece drum set. It requires a wrench to adjust the hardware and bears some similarity to the Ludwig Butcher's Block drum sets of the 1970s. This narrows it down to the right ballpark, but I am having trouble finding an exact match online. The rack tom mount has a plastic handle instead of metal and different logo than the other drum sets from this series that I could find.
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The bottom heads (presumably the ones they originally came with) say "Ludwig Rockers"; not sure if this is just the name of the resonant head or the entire drum set). All drums included have adjustable dampeners for the top heads. What eras are the Remo Fiberskyn batter heads from, and what material are they made of?
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I currently have it set up as a four-piece because the hardware on the smallest tom won't stay in. It is impossible to screw it in properly through one of the holes; what is the problem here, and what can be done about it?
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The bass drum pedal that it came with has a broken beater, and modern beaters won't fit; what pedal is this? I am using a different pedal of mine instead.
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What exact snare drum is this, and what size of tension rods do I need to replace the missing ones?
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It has Sabian SR2 cymbals (from what era?) that sound great. The cymbals and hi-hat have nice, sturdy Gibraltar stands. If I sell the drums, I am not sure if I will want to keep the cymbals and stands because they are nice and matching and I could use them with other drums reliably. There is a Stagg throne and Ludwig snare stand. Once I fix everything up, how much could I realistically make for this drum set
1. Everything included?
2. Shells and hardware?
3. Just shells?
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Any knowledge or advice you can offer would be greatly appreciated!
Cheers,
Eric
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Blue/Olive badge in Butcher Block. 70’s era I believe. Not rockers……can’t tell the snare
 
that Fiberskyn 2 was an early iteration, then came FS 3 and now is just Fiberskyn.
Set looks like from 1978. No rings in shell right?
Snare is a Pearl something. The Nuts and Plastic T's on the hardware can all be replaced by metal T- handles (available on ebay) . In all Good set. Just needs some Tidying up

www.drumarchive.com look in 1980 catalog) or at www.Vintagedrumguide.com look in catalog middle 70s on up

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My Ludwig Acrolite (dated around 1979-ish) came with a snare stand that has the black plastic T handle. It has always worked great.

Never felt the need to replace it with a metal one. It's more comfortable to use than the metals ones TBH.
 
What Heartbeat said 100% Ludwig classics.
The snare is not a Ludwig.
 
Your B/O badges have rounded corners. That started around 1979. Shells would be 6 ply maple/poplar/maple.
 
Trying to answer the last few questions that nobody else has:

Ludwig Rockers, in this case refers to the heads. There were several lines of Ludwig entry and midrange drums called Rockers in the 70s, 80s and 90s, but these are not those.

SR2s are factory refreshed Sabian cymbals that could have started out as anything (AA, HH, AAX, HHX) and now are unique one-off cymbals sold at a reduced price. They are a literal roll of the dice; sometimes you get something great and sometimes not so much.

Your pedal is a Ludwig 400 pedal, which was a line they had in the 90s and 2000s to pack with lower and mid-range kits. It's functional but not anything super special or collectable.

It's hard to tell what's going on with the tom mount on your smaller rack tom. I can see one of the mounting bolts lying around inside the tom. You'll need to take off one of the heads and try to bolt it back on from the inside. If you are missing one of the bolts, or they're broken, you can get functional replacements at any hardware store.

The snare drum is an inexpensive imported steel snare identical to millions that have been sold to students and beginners for decades. It has very low street value in and of itself ($25-50 depending on condition).

[EDIT:] The shells by themselves are in pretty decent shape, so judging by the prices being asked on Reverb, you could probably get at least $1500 for them as is; if you clean them up super nice and throw fresh heads on them, probably more than that. I would recommend selling the stands, snare, and cymbals separately if possible - the drums by themselves are desirable, but having to take it as a package deal might make it harder to sell. As I said above, the snare is worth no more than $50. The cymbals could maybe go for $200-250 all together. Each stand is probably worth about $50-60 apiece. The bass drum pedal is worth no more than $20.
 
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If you were up in the northeast U.S. I'd say it might have been my old kit.
Had the same kit back in the 80's, sold it - did not regret it at the time but sure do now. :)
 
alparrott said:
It's hard to tell what's going on with the tom mount on your smaller rack tom. I can see one of the mounting bolts lying around inside the tom. You'll need to take off one of the heads and try to bolt it back on from the inside. If you are missing one of the bolts, or they're broken, you can get functional replacements at any hardware store.
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agree 100% @sutheric do you understand that? You'll have to take that tom tom's drum head off to get inside.. Which begs the question.

Did they come with a Drum Key? 😁 you'll need one of those..to remove a head

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That's a (potentially) beautiful set when Service is complete. (bass drum heads seems salvageable) . 25 years ago may not have said that. That's a set that will last a 100 years of home use ; )
 
That looks like a nice drum set, and I also like the cymbals. I have had good luck with the SR2's. I have one is my setup now. May that set give you years of musical joy. Peace and goodwill.
 
jda said:
that Fiberskyn 2 was an early iteration, then came FS 3 and now is just Fiberskyn.
Set looks like from 1978. No rings in shell right?
Snare is a Pearl something. The Nuts and Plastic T's on the hardware can all be replaced by metal T- handles (available on ebay) . In all Good set. Just needs some Tidying up
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I may replace the outdated Fiberskyn heads with modern ones to tidy it up. The floor tom seems to have a more recent one with no damage already. I will also fix up the Pearl snare drum but not expecting to make much off of it. I don't want to replace the plastic handles on the hardware with metal ones; I was simply pointing out that they are plastic as an identifying characteristic because most of the comparable drum sets I've found have had metal ones instead. I have been looking through those archives for a match and seem to have come close. Thanks for the help!
 
IBitePrettyHard said:
My Ludwig Acrolite (dated around 1979-ish) came with a snare stand that has the black plastic T handle. It has always worked great.

Never felt the need to replace it with a metal one. It's more comfortable to use than the metals ones TBH.
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I also prefer plastic and have no desire to replace the handle. I was just pointing it out to narrow down the search because these types of kits seem to have metal handles more often.
 
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