602 20” Medium Flat Ride

RVC

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Hopefully this little ramble will bring a bit of humor to someone today. My cymbalholism is very real, albeit at a much slower pace and through a much narrower scope these days. This particular cymbal acquisition story, though, is a real dandy. :ROFLMAO:

Mrs. RVC and I are gonna make things official in October. Third time’s a charm (or a strikeout) for each of us, and we’re having a very small ceremony with only family members and my duo guy officiating. It’s been nearly 25 years since my last wedding, and that one was a civil ceremony at a courthouse in Nevada. I’m fairly astonished at the prices of stuff for this small ceremony.

Feeling sorry for myself for having to plunk down an ungodly sum of money for wedding expenses (flowers, for example) is part of the irrational motivation for my purchase of this Medium Flat Ride. “If I’m spending XXXX$$ on flowers, what’s an extra XXX$$ gonna matter if I buy this cymbal?!” In case you were wondering, that’s called addict’s math! LOL

Musically, it does kind of fill a spot, I suppose. Since I’ve moved to heavier cymbals overall, my 18” Thin Flat was getting lost a bit. The 20” Medium Flat is louder, the note even clearer and with less spread. One thing I do enjoy about both flat rides is putting things on them to shape the sound a bit. I’ve included a pic of a couple of items that alter the sound in a cool way. The jingle thing makes the flats sound like a really processed, electronic ride while the other wire thingy makes a more traditional riveted sound.

Didn’t need this cymbal at all, and bought it at a really bad time financially. There was just enough musical reason for me to justify it, though, and a true ‘holic doesn’t need much more than a whisper to fire up the baser instincts. I keep saying one day I’ll finally learn my lesson, but today is evidently not that day! :rolleyes:😶

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Getting new cymbals is always fun. May they give you years of musical joy. Peace and goodwill.
 
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Congratulations!! That's a beautiful cymbal. I have one myself. It is an absolutely beautiful instrument.

Oh! And congratulations on the wedding side of things too!!

Btw, what is that wire thing for the cymbal? Is that your own invention?
 
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Sure is purty! And I bet it sounds great!

Good luck and congratulations and all that, too. 😊
 
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Thanks for the well wishes, everyone! @brady, the wire sizzle thing was purchased but I can’t remember the company for the life of me.
 
It appears that they've updated their design.
You’re probably right. Mine is at least 10 years old but probably closer to 15. It’s no substitute for real rivets, in my opinion, but it gets 60% of the way there. I’m trying to decide if I’d like to drop a couple rivets in both flat rides so I’m living with this for awhile to see if I truly want to take that step.
 
I’m trying to decide if I’d like to drop a couple rivets in both flat rides so I’m living with this for awhile to see if I truly want to take that step.
I have two rivets in my 22" Bosphorus china... they are easily removable -like a brass paper fastener on the underside. Interestingly, the cymbal came with short and long brass rivets. Can't remember which, but one of them vibrates longer than the other.
 
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If you 'draw those Jingly things 'up near the bell (no bell) hole like 2-3" from stem -they won't get in the way of Stick and still give sizzle effect
 
You’re probably right. Mine is at least 10 years old but probably closer to 15. It’s no substitute for real rivets, in my opinion, but it gets 60% of the way there. I’m trying to decide if I’d like to drop a couple rivets in both flat rides so I’m living with this for awhile to see if I truly want to take that step.
I've riveted a few cymbals over the years but I just can't bring myself to do that to my Flat Ride for some reason. I've used the chain a couple times for that effect but mostly left it alone since I got the flat ride to specifically have that flat ride sound. I have the sizzle covered in other cymbals.
 
You’re probably right. Mine is at least 10 years old but probably closer to 15. It’s no substitute for real rivets, in my opinion, but it gets 60% of the way there. I’m trying to decide if I’d like to drop a couple rivets in both flat rides so I’m living with this for awhile to see if I truly want to take that step.
Only downside to rivets is they shred the inside of your cymbal bag, scratch other cymbals in your cymbal bag and occasionally will take a nice chunk out of your finger if you grab the cymbal wrong. But they sound awesome and have a vibe about them, especially in a flat.
 
Only downside to rivets is they shred the inside of your cymbal bag, scratch other cymbals in your cymbal bag and occasionally will take a nice chunk out of your finger if you grab the cymbal wrong. But they sound awesome and have a vibe about them, especially in a flat.
Microfiber cloth folded (for padding) and a tiny bit of gaff to secure the cloth, my friend! :) *EDIT* - I’ve only had 2 and 3 rivet clusters, never the around the world spread, which my solution wouldn’t work for. LOL

I’ve had several riveted cymbals over the years, just never a riveted flat. I’m already over that thought process anyway, though. My other new-to-me cymbal, the vintage 602 20” Heavy, has me rethinking my entire cymbal paradigm.

@jda - Joe, did you ever have a specific cymbal change the way you thought about cymbals and playing them? I’m assuming it was your first or maybe your best old K? This 1977 602 20” Heavy @2576g is that cymbal for me.
 
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Only downside to rivets is they shred the inside of your cymbal bag, scratch other cymbals in your cymbal bag and occasionally will take a nice chunk out of your finger if you grab the cymbal wrong. But they sound awesome and have a vibe about them, especially in a flat.
I use a few Cymbag cymbal liners that I picked up on clearance years ago. I rotate them as needed when I transport cymbals but my riveted cymbals stay in one all the time.

 
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